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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 17, 2012 6:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in the Home Provide Greater Health Risk Than Benefit

"For every anti-gun article you can link us to, the pro-gun faction can produce a reasonable rebuttal."

And yet, you still haven't bothered to do so. I posted for you what looks like to be the results of a carefully conducted, well presented study on guns in the home. You've provided nothing but the kind of speculative assertion usually thrown out there by people who don't have research on their sides. "You can design a study that says anything!" Sorry, if I don't find your line of argument to be very persuasive.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Dec 17, 2012 9:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in the Home Provide Greater Health Risk Than Benefit

Actually I've done nothong more than make a statement attempting to promote a little thought and objectivity. I then proceeded to voice my opinion on steps toward a viable, and reasonable solution the gun conundrum.

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Poster: JihadOMuffin Date: Dec 17, 2012 8:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in the Home Provide Greater Health Risk Than Benefit

I got through the first seven pages of that study posted. It is a summary of other research, not an actual study collecting data. But I agree with the conclusions. How about this idea, if you want to be a gun owner, you must have an RFID chip in the gun and implanted in yourself and only when the chips are within 2 feet of eachother does the gun fire. Obviously many will crying big brother.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Dec 17, 2012 9:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in the Home Provide Greater Health Risk Than Benefit

Biometric grips are not just restricted to James Bond movies. Those could easily be implemented into firearms purchases after demonstrating some minimum level of proficiency following a waiting period in which a for real, no shit background check was done.

I'd support such measures - you could even have more than one "key" so a spouse or family member could also use the firearm. I'm also okay with waiting periods and background checks.

I am not a fan of a national level or state level registration for ownership. I would (and do) support local registration for concealed carry.

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Poster: JihadOMuffin Date: Dec 17, 2012 10:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in the Home Provide Greater Health Risk Than Benefit

I would agree with a biometric grip. Whether judges would agree with constitutionality of that measure would be the question. Especially with the conservative twinge the supreme court currently has.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Dec 17, 2012 9:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in the Home Provide Greater Health Risk Than Benefit

Are you also going to require all motor vehicles to be equipped with alcohol interlocks and cellphone jamming devices?

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Poster: JihadOMuffin Date: Dec 17, 2012 10:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in the Home Provide Greater Health Risk Than Benefit

Exactly, what can you really do without going to far?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 18, 2012 7:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in the Home Provide Greater Health Risk Than Benefit

You can do quite a bit, actually. All depends on what you think is "going too far." Personally, I don't think that banning the sale of weapons designed specifically to kill lots of people quickly and efficiently is going too far.

Cars, you understand, have another purpose entirely. Are they dangerous? Yes. But killing is not the the reason they are built. We can re-think traffic safety, speed limits, road design, licensing. We can build better public transportation infrastructure. There are all kinds of things we can do before we throw up our hands and say it's not possible.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 18, 2012 7:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in the Home Provide Greater Health Risk Than Benefit

Reductio ad absurdum. As if guns and cars play similarly important roles in society. For what it's worth, I do favor far stricter regulations on who is allowed to drive a vehicle, but you fail to explain why placing restrictions on gun ownership necessarily means we have to do the same for every other potentially deadly thing. Reductio ad absurdum.

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